Just an open thread for if anyone has any thoughts, comments, questions or concerns about my overly-ambitious MCU tribute/rewrite/knockoff. I'm currently working on Thor: Ragnarok and updating Luke Cage Season 1. Hope to start on Season 1 of Daredevil and Jessica Jones soon.
In my "universe" as it were, I'd imagine the X-Men continuing in their own little enclave owned by Fox, similar to what happened now. My plan is/was to have a television show that is its own continuty, but within the same "real world reality" that my MCU exists in, if that makes sense. Basically the X-Men are the only group Marvel in my world does not have access to.
However, any development on that front is a loooong way off. I have too much to finish on my 11584 stuff before I even try tackling that.
I don't doubt it could work, but I think part of the problem I have (at least from my perspective) is that I grew up in the 90s as a comic book fan, where many of the X-Men comics were somewhat self-contained. Major events in the X-books rarely crossed over into the larger Marvel Universe (Onslaught being the only one that comes to mind at the moment) and many story elements in the X-books stayed contained within those pages as well. As such, I've always viewed the X-Men characters and such as existing on an island unto themselves, even inside the larger Marvel Universe. This, as opposed to the Fantastic Four, which always had co-relations within the other major groups.
But like I said, I want to work on finishing what I have done before I even think about setting further foot into incorporating the X-Men, fun as those characters are (and I'm actually better versed in those characters than I am in the other Marvel characters, believe it or not).
Opinions on the Netflix series as they are now? Luke Cage season 1 is done, and Daredevil is getting episode 4 written right now.
I haven't finished reading Luke Cage yet, but so far Daredevil has been decent. Definitely get a lot of 2003 vibes from it. Like, I could definitely see Ben Affleck's Matt Murdock saying and doing the things you described much more than I could Charlie Cox's.
It looks like you're adapting the Defenders' storyline of the Hand trying to live forever, except Wilson Fisk is involved this time. Not sure how excited I am about this especially considering once again K'un-Lun seems to be in the center of it. The Kingpin, the Hand, and Iron Fist are all distinct establishments in the comics that each have their own interesting lore. When they get amalgamated like they did in the Defenders, everything just all feels like a generic evil "Asian" group that isn't as compelling as what the comics came up with.
I don't know, that's more a criticism of the Netflix MCU then your project, but since you seem to be doing a similar story I just wanted to give my two cents.
There's more going on than has been revealed. While the "immortal Hand" story does play a role in Daredevil and later Iron Fist, its a more broad underlying story that's an undercurrent to the whole thing. There's only one major detail that gives the greater whole away thus far, and far more will be revealed with Luke Cage (whom I see as more of the central character in my universe, versus Daredevil) in season 2 than what has been shown thus far.
As for the 2003 vibes, the last scene I wrote is definitely taken from the 2003 Daredevil film, and I don't make Charlie Cox as "tortured" a Matt Murdock, at least not right now. More'll be coming with this as time goes on. As for Pantoliano cast as Ben Urich, god casting is good casting.
Doing all these bios seems time consuming, especially when I have the plotlines for all these films coming up rattling around in my brain and I just want to get them out there. Does anybody really care about these bio pages, or are they just for my own amusement?
I won't lie, I barely read any of them. Most of them are just reiterating events that already happened in the movies with only some small backstories details here and thrre, I honestly thought you were doing them because you wanted to.
You're preaching to the choir about them being time consuming. There's a reason I've never even attempted to do something like that for Earth-113599. It seems really tedious and I wouldn't blame you if you just focused on writing the movies full time.
In what way? If you're referring to them getting done, then yes they will eventually all be finished. This was more of a gauge to determine how soon they get finished. I had been working on finishing everything up to Infinity War, which I hope to still do, maybe.
The TV shows will be done on a different schedule, certainly, even with potential crossovers down the line. But Im not going to delete anything or leave them unfinished, certainly.
So...by my count...64 pages left to be made and finished (not counting the four that are already created and are in some form of being finished), and that's not including the TV bios yet. So if anyone has been patiently waiting for the films to be updated...that's still a ways off. I may just create all the pages and then update the history later, as I'd like to get ahead of the mainline MCU before Endgame/Infinity Gauntlet...if for no other reason than my version of Avengers 4 in this universe gets done before the real one (I'm confident enough to say they'll be completely different, just want to get going.)
I was just thinking today that I'm very curious to see how the Fantastic Four are handled in Infinity War. Because the mainstream version was a very tightly paced film with every character's interactions and arc being carefully planned out. Adding Reed, Sue, Ben and Johnny to everything could potentially bring an entirely new element to the movie.
Got a burst of creativity and wrote out basic snippets of the dialogue in the post-credits scenes for all the films. I might do another series of those as "key moments" or "quotes" from the films, but that is a long way off. Also Daredevil season 1 is finished and Jessica Jones is three episodes in. Thoughts or concerns are appreciated, as always.
My God I've started Infinity War. Before Captain Marvel is released too!
For those wondering, Infinity War will be far different from the RL movie, though following a similar pattern in some areas. Ant-Man and the Wasp is the closest to the MCU version (though with some significant details changed) and Captain Marvel, I presume, will be completely different from the version we are going to get (I say that because you've already seen one of the inciting events in Captain Marvel; the spaceship crash that Herbert Wyndham finds in Guardians Vol. 2 is also the ship that is carrying Mar-Vell, whom Carol Danvers finds in Central Park. Based on what we've seen in trailers, I think I'm going a very different route than what Marvel is doing.)
Infinity Gauntlet (my version of Endgame) will also be completely different.
Well, sort of...there's still another twist to come. This is really a three part story: Infinity War was the First Part...Infinity Gauntlet is the third. The Second Part is a Netflix series entitled Avengers: Infinity which will deal with the fallout from this one and the leadup to Gauntlet. More will become clear with Ant-Man and the Wasp's post-credits scene, and especially the Infinity series (which will be done separate from the current "Defenders" arc of stories, which despite some hints dropped in Infinity War are proceeding at their own pace.
If your goal was to make a cliffhanger, you've succeeded as far I'm concerned. I have absolutely no idea what to expect in Infinity & Infinity Gauntlet or how the Avengers are going to get out of this one.
Another thing I really liked about Earth-11584's version of Infinity War was how much it felt like a legitimate sequel to Civil War and World War Hulk. The mainstream Infinity War didn't really do that and it was surprising to me since the Accords/Protocols and Captain America's falling out seemed like they were set up to be important but didn't really change the overall story. Big fan of the connectivity.
The Guardians of the Galaxy didn't have as big of a role, but that makes since because Infinity War is supposed to be an Avengers story with guest appearances from the Guardians, not the other way around.
In my original thoughts the Guardians did have a bigger role, at one point they were going to be the vessel that saved the Asgardians (and even Odin, though I eventually decided he had to die to show more of Thanos' ferocity as a villain) from Asgard, and the whole "chase in space" bit would have been curtailed.
The only reason the Guardians figured so prominently into the ML Infinity War, I think, was because of the Gamora/Thanos subplot. Since my version of Thanos is closer to the amoral psychopath of the comics, I felt that subplot was pointless, and thus there's less for the Guardians to do. I do show snippets of this plot, such as Thanos facing his greatest enemy in the daughter he lost in Soul World, but ultimately it isn't given near the weight it is in the film. Honestly my biggest criticism of Infinity War- Real Life Edition- is that it focuses TOO much on Thanos, when it should be more of a culmination of Phase 3 and its consequences. Since my version of events have more events than just the Civil War (the World War Hulk stuff, Tony as director of SHIELD, etc.), then that has to take precedence here.
Without giving too much away, while this is all a three-part story, the three parts could theoretically stand alone with a little reworking.
I've posted a show page for Avengers: Infinity, and included a brief synopsis for each episode. There will be mild spoilers for both The Defenders (though that's been eluded to) and Captain Marvel in those synopsis', so bare that in mind.
Just read through all of them, they're depressing, but certainly creative.
I can't help but notice you introduced a lot of significant Marvel heroes like Miles Morales, Kamala Khan, Wiccan, etc almost like you're setting up the Young Avengers. That gives me a theory that Iron Lad might join the team sometime in Avengers: Infinity Gauntlet and time travel with them to the past and undo the Decimation/stop Thanos for good. Indirectly setting up Kang the Conqueror and time traveling villains in future installments.
I...honestly hadn't thought about Kang. Time travel will factor into Infinity Gauntlet definitely, but also other films. Kang may factor in later, but I'm going to have enough trouble finally coopting mutants into the world, let alone time traveling villains from the far flung future (though just sitting here I can already come up with a storyline for Kang that would work, its just when to do it.)
As an aside, if it looks like I won't finish "Infinity" before Endgame's release, I'll be going ahead and starting Infinity Gauntlet. The brief synopsis on certain parts will contain all you need to know.
So you may have noticed (if you care) that I have dragged my feet on season 1 of Jessica Jones and the other Netflix shows in my universe. This is just due to lack of direction for many of those stories, outside of general plot direction. Essentially what I am planning on doing is writing episode synopsis similar to the placeholders I had on Avengers: Infinity just so those shows have the plot described in minor details, though not completely written out as they have been up until now, with the intention of going back and finishing them later. This will allow me to get the TV universe back up to level with the film universe, and also make a few things in upcoming films a little clearer.
Also, Infinity Gauntlet has started. It'll be a doozy once it gets finished, as there's a lot of consequences stemming from it. So look forward to that I guess.
Good idea, Darbicus. TV shows are very energy intensive undertakings and it's hard to find the passion to do multiple seasons when you want to work on movie stuff like Infinity Gauntlet and Spider-Man. The placeholders, while I imagine not ideal, are probably the best compromise possible.
No judgement here, that's a smart decision on your end.
Sorry if updates have been a little slow in the last week or so, as I've been dealing with family emergencies all week. Everything is copasetic now, and more frequent (and substantial) updates should resume this week. Thanks.