Pertaining to the subject of the progonal post, I am working on my incidental incomplete articles (again, sorry for that). It might take a while, considering I created over 15 articles without completion.
@Zoom: Looking forward to it, what is your schedule looking like?
@Dare00Devil: Why present this information to us here? I don't know what a progonal post is, but this thread doesn't pertain to you and I'm not sure why it had to be mentioned here. But it's fine, it doesn't matter how long it takes.
Hi I'm new to this part of the Fandom and I was trying to created my own story to start with for Killspree and I clicked on the add new page, and used Killspree (EARTH-616WIF) for the page title. But I'm use to working with the exciting pages and have no clue how to made it look like a page, I want to make it look like the Marvel Database with history to the left and real name/hight etc to the right?
Welcome to the Marvel Fanon Wiki, I hope you enjoy it here.
As for your question, that thing you're seeing on the side of Marvel Database Wiki articles is called a template and it's created by editing in Source Mode. You can access Source Mode by clicking a tab called "source" in the top right corner of the page. Once you're in Source Mode just find a page on this Wiki with the template you want to use (here's an example of one) and then copy and paste the template source code onto Killspree (EARTH-616WIF). If you're still confused I can just do it for you, but you'll need to make a page first.
I haven't seen anyone's panel yet or done anything con related, and I don't plan to. I dropped out of the Con because I have no time or energy, and if I take a day off everything bursts into flames. It makes me want to stay away more, but I know I can't. I'm trapped here, and I'm starting to not want to be.
Jeez, I didn't know it was that bad. Listen X, nobody wants you to get burned out or overworked from the Wiki. You should take a break soon and we'll figure out some way to keep the community from bursting into flames in the meantime.
I'm really sorry, X, someone was talking to me while I was typing my comment and must've been distracted. I really didn't mean to offend you and still do want to help in any way that I can. Please man, you sound exhausted and shouldn't have to do this alone.
Hey man, I lost Internet and only just got it back, I am SO sorry to have bailed on you. The nature of my absence also logged me out of Discord and I created a new account trying to get back in (that's the TL;DR version), so I emailed Discord to hopefully straighten this out. I hope I can do so soon, as I was really enjoying our conversation and look forward to continuing it (assuming they can get back the chat from before).
Dude, don't worry about it. I figured it was something like that. Unfortunately, I'm busy for most of today so I probably won't be able to talk. Tomorrow though I should be free. Hopefully we can do it then. :)
So I've been thinking about Secret Wars and how it could set things up for Phase 4, and I think I have a pretty good idea for how Secret Wars could lead into the Dark Phoenix Saga and then into World War Hulk.
These are all just loose ideas here, so they're definitely subject to change. I just want to hear your thoughts on them.
My idea was basically that some of the heroes in Secret Wars get a bit of a power boost, either from traveling to Battleworld or given to them by the Beyonder himself. Jean would be among them, her telekinetic abilities getting much stronger over the course of the film. In the end, she would seemingly die staying behind on Battleworld as she uses her enhanced powers to hold open a portal or something for the other heroes to escape, as the whole place kind of implodes on itself.
However, she wouldn't actually die here. The other X-Men would assume she does, and this could put Cyclops in a pretty dark place at the start of the Phoenix saga. What actually happens is, just as the other heroes escape Battleworld, the strain of holding open the portal causes her to pass out, but her newly increased powers make it so that she can unconsciously form a force field around herself, keeping her safe as she is shot out into open space, just as the portal closes. It sounds kind of far-fetched now but I think we'd just have to work on the wording of this. Also, its Marvel, and stranger things have happened in these kind of stories.
So the comatose Jean is able to make her way back to Earth, showing just how powerful she's become. She kind of crash lands outside Muir Island, and we can have Moira MacTaggart (and maybe even her mutant acquaintance Banshee if we'd like to pull in that character) find her, keeping her alive until she wakes up.
I just like the imagery of a near-death Jean literally falling from space and being found by two old friends, it feels like it could be a really iconic scene.
I was thinking Moira and Banshee don't tell Xavier and Scott that they found her just yet, because at this point there's still a chance she may never wake up, and the X-Men are already heartbroken enough as it is.
Anyway, throughout the first half of the first installment of the Dark Phoenix Saga, while the X-Men are off in the Savage Land in pursuit of Legion, we occasionally jump back to Muir Island, where Jean has just woken up and is maybe in physical therapy or something on the island. I imagine all the stuff that's happened to Jean at this point would take quite the toll on her.
Eventually, she decides to fly back and reunite with the X-Men, but as this happens, the Phoenix Force is released, and it immediately begins searching for powerful beings to choose as its host. At this point, Jean Grey would probably be among the Earth's strongest telepaths, so it goes into her, automatically restoring her to full health in the process.
Like the Phoenix, Jean Grey is reborn in a literal blaze of glory, and all the X-Men are amazed. Unfortunately, that amazement soon turns into horror, as the tragic saga unfolds as it was destined to.
Obviously, we would have to work on all of this a lot, but I personally think this could be a pretty cool way of going about it.
Another character who would be severely effected by the events of Secret Wars would be Hulk, who gets pulled into Battleworld after being blasted into space at the end of Intelligencia. On Battleworld, a bizarre land of unknown origin full of intergalactic refugees and outcasts, a messed up "society" quickly forms, ruled by the megalomaniacal Red King, the first outside entity pulled into Battleworld who quickly declares himself its ruler. Red King forces the other castaways to battle for his amusement, and Hulk, the strongest there is, quickly becomes a star worshipped by his new peers. He even falls in love, marrying an alien warrior Caiera.
His life is perfect, until Earth's other superheroes arrive in Battleworld, waging war on the Beyonder. Hulk and his fellow gladiators (Korg, Miek, etc.) ultimately agree to help them, but eventually, when Hulk realizes Battleworld is going to be destroyed if they succeed, he turns against the heroes. He ends up being restrained somehow (maybe Magneto traps him with a bunch of metal) and in the end, when they all escape Battleworld, he breaks free from the rest of the heroes, refusing to return to Earth, and once again flies off into space on his own.
The sad giant would eventually land on a small planetoid populated by the Pantheon, who in the comics are this race of half-Asgardian demigods living on Earth whom Hulk befriends. My idea here is to keep them as demigods, but not based on Earth. Hulk befriends them, telling them his tragic life story and earning their sympathy. He kind of hangs with these guys for a while and it's not as good as Battleworld, but still pretty nice.
Now, I don't know how far you wanted to go with the cosmic stuff in the Phoenix saga, but here's my idea for how these two storylines could intertwine:
In the second part of the saga, as Jean goes full Dark Phoenix and rampages throughout space, one of the planets she destroys is actually the home of the Pantheon. Most of them, including Hulk and the planet's ruler Agamemnon, manage to escape. Hulk, recognizing Jean, believes that once again, the people of Earth have come to ruin things for him. Fed up, he convinces the Pantheon to help him go to war with Earth, and this is where World War Hulk begins.
Now I was originally picturing WWH as an Avengers movie, but it could totally be its own event film, like Secret Wars. My idea is for World War Hulk to punctuate the first half of Phase 4, leading into the last few films that ultimately culminate in New Avengers, the majority of the team initially forming in the fight against Hulk.
New Avengers itself would still be that earlier concept I came up with combining the Sentry saga and the 2004 Secret War story.
Wow! Those are a lot of really cool ideas, Electric. I especially like how the Phase 4 cosmic stories all seem to be put into motion as a result of Secret Wars. Turning Sakaar into Battleworld for the CMCU is really clever actually. Jean destroying the Pantheon and setting Hulk off the edge is once again, a great way to have the two big cosmic conflicts connect to each other in a meaningful way. I didn't outright say it on the Forum but Dark Phoenix and World War Hulk just happening coincidentally wasn't really sitting right with me. In cinematic universes when similar events happen really close to each other just because reasons it's always really kind of bothered me for some reason, so I'm totally on board with Secret Wars-Dark Phoenix-World War Hulk all acting as parts to one big space saga.
Your Dark Phoenix pitch giving Moira her own subplot with Jean is excellent and I'd totally be willing to adapt that. Now I know you suggested Banshee find her to introduce the character, but that's the one thing I'd have to disagree with. Though I do agree he'd be cool to bring into the CMCU someday, I think it would be cooler if Wolverine was the one with Moira who finds Jean. Logan's crush on Jean is going to develop a lot more in X-Men: Apocalypse (possibly Secret Wars too if you'd be interested in that) so the idea of him finding out she's alive, but not being able to tell anyone would be a really interesting position to put him in because of his already complicated feelings for her.
While Moira could stay on Muir Island to care for Jean, Wolverine would go with the team to the Savage Land and have to keep the secret to himself despite being around Scott and everyone else the whole time. Creating a lot of tension in an already crazy environment giving complexity to Cyclops and Wolverine's relationship.
As for Part 2, I plan on going fairly cosmic with it. I don't have a super detailed idea right now but what I see it like is after Jean gets the Phoenix Force she goes into space and begins destroying planets (like you said in your pitch) and Beast reverse-engineers the X-Jet into an space craft that they use to try and contain her. In space though Jean gets captured by the Shi'ar Empire who invite the X-Men into their domain to learn more about the Earth while using their advanced technology to try and contain/cure Jean. But of course, nothing can go right for the X-Men and Deathbird starts a coup overthrowing her sister and releasing the Dark Phoenix to enforce her will across the empire. Eventually though, Jean gets too powerful and turns on Deathbird getting to the point no one even in the Shi'ar can control her and the X-Men are left with only one choice to end the nightmare... killing Jean.
A good analogy for it would be pretty much the plot of Captain America: Civil War meets the aesthetics and stakes of Infinity War. With Jean being like Bucky, Wolverine/Cyclops like Captain America/Iron Man, and Deathbird like Zemo.
Those are all great ideas. I also think that character arc for Wolverine could be a really cool and interesting one.
The reason I suggested Banshee is just because I was trying to think of who else could be hanging around on Muir Island, and for some reason I thought it was off the coast of Ireland instead of Scotland so I just kind of connected that imaginary dot in my mind.
I was kind of reminded of this thanks to the early reactions to the MCU Black Panther film, what with them being really hyped up and all, but I was meaning to ask if you had any plans to incorporate the Dora Milaje in the CMCU Black Panther film? They are a pretty big part of Wakandan culture that I just sort of blanked on in Crown of the Serpent, because I was mainly focused on building up the royal family and M'Baku above all else. Maybe the Dora Milaje could be introduced after the death of T'Chaka, with the reasoning being that the king might need closer and more highly trained protection?
I actually mentioned in the Discussion thread I had plans to introduce Ayo in the movie, so naturally the Dora Milaje would follow.
My plan was to have the Wakandan royal guard be segregated by gender. The Dora Milaje would be the female warriors and the Hatut Zeraze would be the male ones. M'baku would've originally been the leader of the Zeraze and after he leaves the group it sets them back in the Wakandan royal court. Ayo was also hurt by T'Chaka's death but unlike M'baku, she stays loyal to the Black Panther and the Dora Milaje remain relevant, eventually becoming the most "well known" protectors of the King.