Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-4966483-20160429121236/@comment-1868175-20160503123451

Zippertrain85 wrote:

As for villains, this is the MCU's first ever Spider-Man movie! It should be mostly about him, meaning the villains should be someone interesting, yet easy to work with without too much screen time. I think Vulture would be perfect, and maybe Shocker as a side villain. Norman Osborn should also be in the film, but as Gary (GGD) has said, he should NOT become Green Goblin. The Vulture could be someone who worked with him at Oscorp to create a competing piece of technology similar to Sam Wilson's wings against Stark Industries (that's how Iron Man could make an appearance), but once he found out Osborn (or someone else) was cheating him, he went crazy and became the Vulture with those Pseudo-Falcon wings. That would also show the Cold-hearted business man/bastard side of Norman that we haven't seen yet, instead of yet another crazy version of him (not yet, atleast).

It would also add depth to Spider-Man and Green Goblin's relationship, since if he fights Vulture he might have to SAVE him and Harry from attacks, only adding to his shown trust for the Osborn family. And when the Green Goblin strikes, it would hurt that much more for him. Perhaps an attack from Vulture could start to break Norman's fragile sanity... just saying, for future movies. As for Shocker, he can just be a thug Spider-Man beats up at the beginning, maybe Vulture lets him out at the end and they team up to try and beat Spidey.

Aunt May should be the same as she always was, kind, caring and wise to Peter. As much as I do like Gwen being Spider-Man love interest, we haven't seen Liz yet, and I bet that the MCU doesn't want to associate this with the Sony franchise, not yet at least, as some overlap is inevitable for obvious reasons. The main plot should have to do with the title, homecoming. The entire movie could be Peter preparing with Harry and Liz for homecoming while also fighting crime (Vulture and Shocker) in New York, and having to deal with the stress of both lives. The climax of the movie actually happening at Homecoming where the final fight with Vulture commences, and maybe someone finds out he's Spider-Man (but can't reveal his identity for obvious reasons, maybe Liz?). Thank you, Zipper. The reason why Civil War works on an emotional level for fans is because we've seen Cap and Tony (and the rest of the team) grow as characters, and we've seen their relationships develop, so that's why it's a very emotional movie for not only the characters, but us viewers too. This is something Batman v Superman did wrong (not gonna get in depth because spoilers), since we've only seen the DCEU Superman once prior to BVS, and this was our first time meeting the DCEU Batman.

I have to admit, I thought Mysterio was a perfect villain for a Spidey solo film, but your idea for how Vulture becomes the villain really impressed me. It would be a very nice tie-in to the larger MCU, and it could also bring Tony into the movie very nicely. And as you said, it would show how cold-hearted Norman can be.

And lastly, Liz Allen. After reading your explanation, I can understand why you chose Liz over Gwen. Having Liz (or whoever) find out that Peter is Spider-Man can make for some very interesting dialogue; Liz (or whoever; just fill in the blank here, really. Could be Liz, Harry, etc.) could find out that Peter is Spidey. They ask if anyone else knows Peter's secret, and Peter could respond with something like "Well, Tony Stark does.". And naturally, that character would freak out.

Overall I was very impressed by your pitch, Zipper. Good job.