Board Thread:News and Announcements/@comment-5927539-20151115221537/@comment-5795364-20151117105054

Jaga 321 wrote: The western media is very pro-Israel. We [the west] give them $3.2 billion per year in military aid, for a country, sorry to be brutally honest, that is surrounded by Muslim countries. Sure, Jerusalem is as holy to Jews as it is to Christians or Muslims, it just happens to be situated in the centre of the muslim world.

I don't know how much you know about the european migration crisis, but with many Muslims moving into mainland Europe (as a result of western bombings and occupations) Many europeans fear a 'Muslim state' will be set up in Europe, right in the centre of a 'Christian continent'. This is likely how Muslims felt when many Jews moved in to Palastine to establish a 'Jewish state' in a county, that though largely Muslim, was very international and accepting in the many religions that see importance in Jerusalem. Regardless, with many Muslims being displaced, they were likely to become very angry at they're country being 'taken over' with help from aid and training from the west. Much like when Jews moved to Germany in WWI, this breeds extreme patriotism, and eventually leading to people finding their faith in a dying country in Hamas, an extremist group who largely took power by force. I am not condemming Hamas, they are a group that needs to be dealt with, just not in the way you are suggesting. West bank is largely not a problem, accepting Israel as a state, with Isael having a large control over that state (which, by law is noth theirs, but if that land can be controlled collabritively then we are one step closer to peace)

Despite this, Gaza is the main problem. They are extremist and barbaric, yet still the amount of innocent people killed by Israel far outweighs that of those killed by Gaza. Israel has Western help, something that likely fuels Gaza to kill people even more. For me, the solution would involve Israel and West Bank establishing Israel-Palastine as one state, taking away the borders. Gaza has the chance to join such a state, with the joint forces regaining peace and taking out extremism in Gaza to make the impoverished country better than the poor, destroyed state it is currently in.

People need to stop fighting like children. It's 2015, and people still think their (likely fictional) beliefs should warrent them they're own homeland. I think people must accept that the countries of the word no longer belong to one class, gender, race or religon. Neither of your religions promote violence or taking countries by force, and cramming people behind walls will only breed extremism. I dont care about religious beliefs. I'm agnostic/atheist.

I did not say that the entire world hates us, nor did I say that we're fully innocent(no one is). And again, no offense, but you dont exactly know how many people from our side die every day. just pointing that out.